After quite a few shots and lattes and regular coffees with my 580, here are some additional impressions:
- Regular coffee is good but a little light. Because the 580 has no way to adjust the pour for the coffee, I realized that I have to yank my coffee out a bit before it's finished so it doesn't seem (almost) diluted. But it's tasty (drinking the Pike's roast) -- or at least as tasty as one can get from a pod machine.
- Espresso really is where this unit seems to shine. It's a great shot of espresso from a pod machine. Hot, not too bitter, and probably as good a shot of espresso I've had from a machine where I do no grining, tamping, or fiddling with the thermostat. Is it great espresso? No -- not by any stretch. But it's far better, IMHO -- than any Nespresso shot and -- as I say above -- surprisingly decent.
- Lattes are good, too, but the milk seems a bit too much. In order to get a stronger latte, I've been pouring a bit of milk out once it's pulled and before I pull the espresso.
My sites are low because I know it's a pod machine, and I know there are limitations. But overall -- it's a great little unit with good coffee and very good espresso. If I had to buy it again, I'd stick with the 580. I realize the 585 has more features, larger water tank, adjustable temp control, and adjustable pours -- but I can't justify the price given only those features (and knowing, essentially, that the taste will by and large be the same.)