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Davi8r wrote:The sleeves from Meinl arrived via FedEx yesterday. Took about a week, just as mkadilla said it would. The order was thoughtfully packed, with proper paperwork for the international shipment which progressed from Vienna to Paris, to Newark, then Memphis and finally Sacramento.
My only gaffe was trying to brew Melange as coffee. This caused the machine to lock up and start beeping, throwing me into a panic at 4 in the morning, thinking I had "killed" my Contata. Comparing the Meinl capsule with a CBTL coffee capsule, I saw that Meinl Melange has a hard plastic bottom. There is no foil. Oops - I was trying to brew an espresso capsule as coffee. I guess the 3 bars used for brewing coffee isn't strong enough to break the espresso capsule. CBTL makes it idiot-proof, by printing "Brew" or "Espresso" in big letters on the box. Guess I need that feature.
Amr wrote:jar, you chose the illy, slightly, over the Lavazza. Was that based solely on your fondness of illy coffee, from your past?
Do you see any other advantages/disadvantages (of the machines) when comparing the illy and Lavazza that I may have missed?
Does the steam wand on the Lavazza work better/quicker because it has a dedicated boiler?
I guess that's all for now. Thanks again!
Thanks so much for the information you provided. I'm one of those people that feels you can never have too much information - which can be good and bad.
While I don't have previous experience with a true espresso machine, I know that I don't want to go through the mess of grinding, tamping, etc. I want something quick, reliable and most important, good. I don't expect to get great espresso from these machines, but happy with a good espresso. Furthermore, I tend to like americanos, caps and lattes, but will occasionally drink an espresso. I'm just wondering how that factors into this, considering the Lavazza has a few more options than Illy.
It seems that everday - no, every hour - I go back and forth between the two machines. I wish I could taste-test them, which I could if I drive down to Wash, DC, but not sure it's worth the effort; I'm about 45-50 mins from there.
Right now, I'm leaning towards the FrancisFrancis X8. I feel that Illy is more prominent, and I could purchase the capsules locally and not be confined to internet-only purchases. And, your post is having me lean towards it as well, considering that you were on the fence, and can vouch for the performance of the X8. I do plan on using the steam wand, so that's another factor. But, I'm sure the X8 would do an adequate job of frothing.
I'm giving myself a deadline for deciding of today. That's the only way I'll get one. Otherwise, I'll keep going back and forth forever.
jar wrote:Well, today Illy announced three more single origin espresso capsules, from Brazil, Ethiopia and Guatemala, so the variety you want is now available in the Illy as well.
Amr wrote:I'm definitely going with Illy, and about to order. However, I really like the design of the Y1 machine, but it doesn't come with a steam wand. Furthermore, I'm trying to decipher the differences among the machines, specifically Y1, Gaggia and X8. I believe that they would all brew the espresso the same, and differences are water tank size, steam wand, maybe cup-accepting size and aesthetics. But, of course, I could be very wrong.
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