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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby jar » Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:01 pm

roadie wrote:
jar wrote:Many traditional European coffee drinks are made with milk and the only difference between the drinks is how the milk is prepared. Heated milk, steamed milk, frothed milk and cold milk each yield a distinct coffee profile.


Man, wine tasting is easier (and more fun :lol: )


That's actually a great point.

Wines are not simple; how long it breaths before serving, what it was stored in, what temperature it is served, the shape of different glasses all effect the profile of a given wine.

But the fun is in tasting and experiencing all those different profiles.

Long, long ago and in a land far, far away when I was putting on wine tastings for part of my living, one tasting that always turned out well had just one wine. I'd serve the wine at different temperatures and in different glasses accompanied by different foods from bottles that had been allowed to breathe for different times. The audience then graded the "different" wines to choose the one they liked best.

Only after the tasting was over would I show them that all the samples were the same wine. Folk were always stunned and amazed how different the wines had tasted.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby roadie » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:50 pm

jar wrote:
roadie wrote:
jar wrote:Many traditional European coffee drinks are made with milk and the only difference between the drinks is how the milk is prepared. Heated milk, steamed milk, frothed milk and cold milk each yield a distinct coffee profile.


Man, wine tasting is easier (and more fun :lol: )


That's actually a great point.

Wines are not simple; how long it breaths before serving, what it was stored in, what temperature it is served, the shape of different glasses all effect the profile of a given wine.

But the fun is in tasting and experiencing all those different profiles.

Long, long ago and in a land far, far away when I was putting on wine tastings for part of my living, one tasting that always turned out well had just one wine. I'd serve the wine at different temperatures and in different glasses accompanied by different foods from bottles that had been allowed to breathe for different times. The audience then graded the "different" wines to choose the one they liked best.

Only after the tasting was over would I show them that all the samples were the same wine. Folk were always stunned and amazed how different the wines had tasted.


I understand completely. It's like when I use or not use my Vinturi aerator. What a difference it makes on inexpensive, tight, wines. Anyway, getting back to coffee, i agree, it's all part of the fun of learning different combinations and what works for you (oneself).
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby BDogD » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:15 pm

jar wrote:
roadie wrote:
jar wrote:Many traditional European coffee drinks are made with milk and the only difference between the drinks is how the milk is prepared. Heated milk, steamed milk, frothed milk and cold milk each yield a distinct coffee profile.


Man, wine tasting is easier (and more fun :lol: )


That's actually a great point.

Wines are not simple; how long it breaths before serving, what it was stored in, what temperature it is served, the shape of different glasses all effect the profile of a given wine.

But the fun is in tasting and experiencing all those different profiles.

Long, long ago and in a land far, far away when I was putting on wine tastings for part of my living, one tasting that always turned out well had just one wine. I'd serve the wine at different temperatures and in different glasses accompanied by different foods from bottles that had been allowed to breathe for different times. The audience then graded the "different" wines to choose the one they liked best.

Only after the tasting was over would I show them that all the samples were the same wine. Folk were always stunned and amazed how different the wines had tasted.


Sensory evaluation of beer yields similar enormous differences with those same variables. Add in the larger breadth of possible flavors and aromas....
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby caffita.info » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:41 am

cortadito wrote:So, my search for the "perfect" capsule continues. Nothing seems close to what I have had in certain European countries, in Miami (Cuban espresso) or even at Starbucks, which I quite like. Any sense of which Caffitaly capsule might be closest to what I'm looking for? Has anyone tried the Chicco D'oro ones? Should I be looking for an arabica/robusta blend?


Well generaly italian espresso and usually not plain arabica. By my personal taste, the most italian/european espressos are this capsules:

Ecaffe - corposo, in my eyes very typical italian ristretto
Cagliari - Super Oro, actually this is the best capsule i ever had on caffitaly system. I belive that this can be good even without water. :)
Chicco Dóro - Tradition, even its 100% arabica it is a great cup and especially with milk. Somehow much better that fair trade arabice which is even more expensive.

What I am a bit confused is Le Symfonie Cream caffes, all capsules i have tried are somehow strange (ok, just 2 types so far). It was very difficult to get it and i am a bit disapointed. But it is really the most crema stuff. Like a shower gel .

One note regarding brewed coffe capsules. I have found that small cut out on the bottom part is not nescessarly indicating capsule for brew cycle. I am regulary buying Tchibo Crema Mild, which is capsule made for large espresso cycle and actually i got a packagge with cut out as well as without. I wrote to tchibo several questions about, we will see. I do have a coffee machine which does not have brew cycle at all, so it is an issue for me. :)
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby cortadito » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:55 pm

cortadito wrote:I haven't fully investigated Chicco D'oro yet. It appears that 100 capsules would be $46.84 and shipping from Switzerland is at least $32.68 -- if that's correct and VAT is not a factor (it may be), it would end up being about $0.80 per capsule, comparable to ordering Ecaffe from the UK. If anyone has placed an order, I hope they'll chime in.


Took some effort, but finally got a quote by registering on their website and going through the motions. The shipping alone would be about $81 for 200 capsules. It ends up being about $0.87 per capsule. Too much for me.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby caffita.info » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:51 am

cortadito wrote:Took some effort, but finally got a quote by registering on their website and going through the motions. The shipping alone would be about $81 for 200 capsules. It ends up being about $0.87 per capsule. Too much for me.


Well, i have seen that CBTL on ebay cost cca 0,73 per capsule. So 0,87 is not that bad. What is the price you can afford? I have afriend who selling some stuff on ebay, so no problem to send you something for trial. The only problem could be shipping cost but definitevly not that bad as Chicco Swiss and possible less quantity.

What I can easily buy is Cagliari, Tchibo (nice selection of special brewed coffe capsules), Meinl, Chicco Doro, Le symfonie, Ecaffe. Possible is also Eduscho which can be bought in Austria. Usually almost all kind from these roasters. It cost me cca 5 USD per 10pcs box.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby caffita.info » Sun May 27, 2012 4:28 pm

3 Great capsules I just discovered:
Cagliari Silver - In my eyes finetuned superoro. My favourite one for now.
Ecaffe Armonioso - Great italian style espresso with fair trade mark (finaly some non arabica only). Big surprise from Ecaffe.
Ecaffe Ginseg - Great coffee based drink even instant based. It should have some Ginseng inside. Its sweet and all womens and on espresso lovers like it. Finally something instant which is possibly to drink from time to time.

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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby cortadito » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:43 pm

After many months of daily coffee brewing with my CBTL Americano, I've settled on the CBTL Italian as my favorite espresso. The technique I learned here (adding the sugar first, stirring fast while the coffee drops and then adding the milk) smoothed out the harsher edge that had tired me of the flavor early on.

I've also cut my sugar in half. Has anyone else had this experience -- that is, cut back on the sugar over time? I recently tried to drink a canned coffee I used to like and found it way too sweet and nearly flavorless. I guess my coffee palate has evolved!

Also, has anyone tried the new CBTL Intenso? How does it differ from the Italian? Also curious about the new CBTL Carnevale, although I don't tend to prefer the lower-strength espressos.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby Bekka » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:51 pm

You know I was expecting the Intenso to be stronger than the italian, but it is and it isn't. In my opinion it is much smoother not as bitter or acidic.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby dsharp88 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:49 pm

Bekka wrote:You know I was expecting the Intenso to be stronger than the italian, but it is and it isn't. In my opinion it is much smoother not as bitter or acidic.

I just got some Intenso (and Carnevale) in. I can't wait to try it (them)!
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby cortadito » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:29 pm

Once you try them, please post a review here...
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby dsharp88 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:45 pm

cortadito wrote:Once you try them, please post a review here...

Guaranteed! Well, actually, it will be under my other reviews heading http://www.singleservecoffeeforums.com/don-s-reviews-of-nespresso-capsules-t7397.html
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby Davi8r » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:58 pm

I've also cut my sugar in half. Has anyone else had this experience -- that is, cut back on the sugar over time?


I started using agave nectar instead of sugar; I further reduce this consumption by including a little Equal or Splenda in the cup. Agave is supposed to be better for you than sugar. I bought a very light variety at BevMore, that works well in coffee (and Margaritas). Then I bought a slightly darker/thicker version at Costco, that I don't like as much. When that is used up, it'll be back to BevMore for the light version, which is optimal for beverage-making.

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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby Davi8r » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:59 pm

I guess it's BevMo :oops:
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby jbviau » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:36 pm

dsharp88 wrote:
cortadito wrote:Once you try them, please post a review here...

Guaranteed! Well, actually, it will be under my other reviews heading http://www.singleservecoffeeforums.com/don-s-reviews-of-nespresso-capsules-t7397.html

You mean here, right? ;)
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