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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby cortadito » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:53 pm

roadie wrote:I'll have to experiment since the Americano only brews at 8, 10, and 12 oz. besides the short shot, long shot and hot chocolate setting.


I think jar is suggesting you use the long shot in this instance. I'll give it a try too.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby roadie » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:26 am

cortadito wrote:
roadie wrote:I'll have to experiment since the Americano only brews at 8, 10, and 12 oz. besides the short shot, long shot and hot chocolate setting.


I think jar is suggesting you use the long shot in this instance. I'll give it a try too.


I just brewed two CBTL Premium espressos (short shots) and some heated 1/2 and 1/2. Added a pack of Splenda and it's not bad, not bad at all. The Splenda takes out some of the bitterness. Heating up the 1/2 and 1/2 really makes a difference, trying it with cold 1/2 and 1/2 changes the whole taste, the coldness overpowers the espresso. You can get away with cold 1/2 and 1/2 in a regular cup of coffee because there's more volume of hot coffee.

Might be a good after lunch drink (regular or decaf). Still, I prefer a larger cup of coffee in the morning but I'll continue to experiment with the other espressos I have from CBTL.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby cortadito » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:38 pm

cortadito wrote:Also checked with Caffe Capsules in the UK. The person I corresponded with was very responsive and exceedingly nice. Shipping in this case would be $37.40, but I can buy a 100-capsule Ecaffe pack for $44. There is a zero VAT rate, so that doesn't add to the price, which ends up being about $0.81 per capsule. If the shipping cost were to remain the same for 200 capsules (not sure of that), then the price per capsule would come down to $0.63.


Unfortunately, what I've highlighted in red proved not to be true. I'm told the postal rate would double. Looks like I won't be trying Ecaffe until it's available domestically at a more competitive price.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby roadie » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:57 pm

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cortadito wrote:Also checked with Caffe Capsules in the UK. The person I corresponded with was very responsive and exceedingly nice. Shipping in this case would be $37.40, but I can buy a 100-capsule Ecaffe pack for $44. There is a zero VAT rate, so that doesn't add to the price, which ends up being about $0.81 per capsule. If the shipping cost were to remain the same for 200 capsules (not sure of that), then the price per capsule would come down to $0.63.


Unfortunately, what I've highlighted in red proved not to be true. I'm told the postal rate would double. Looks like I won't be trying Ecaffe until it's available domestically at a more competitive price.


That's a shame because there's a lot more variety out there than I thought (internationally). As a relative newbie to Caffitaly, I narrow-mindedly thought this was an American invention because of CBTL being based in California and all. And also because I've been using Keurigs for the past 5-6 years which it seems everyone is discovering now. Boy was I wrong. Maybe the more learned among us like Josh (jvbiau) and jar could enlighten us (or at least me).

Question: Just how long has the Caffitlay capsule system been around?
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby jar » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:08 pm

roadie wrote:Question: Just how long has the Caffitlay capsule system been around?


The Caffitaly capsule system was first introduced in late 2004 or early 2005. And yes, there is lots of available product on the other side of the pond that doesn't reach the US. Most of them are also available in the Asian market, Canada and even South and Central America.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby jbviau » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:33 pm

Thanks, roadie, but with respect to Caffitaly jar's definitely the expert around here! I've never even tried a cup from one of these machines.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby roadie » Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:46 pm

jar wrote:
roadie wrote:Question: Just how long has the Caffitlay capsule system been around?


The Caffitaly capsule system was first introduced in late 2004 or early 2005. And yes, there is lots of available product on the other side of the pond that doesn't reach the US. Most of them are also available in the Asian market, Canada and even South and Central America.


Thanks jar.

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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby roadie » Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:47 pm

jbviau wrote:Thanks, roadie, but with respect to Caffitaly jar's definitely the expert around here! I've never even tried a cup from one of these machines.


Thanks to you too anyway Josh.

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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby BDogD » Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:57 pm

roadie wrote:
cortadito wrote:
roadie wrote:I'll have to experiment since the Americano only brews at 8, 10, and 12 oz. besides the short shot, long shot and hot chocolate setting.


I think jar is suggesting you use the long shot in this instance. I'll give it a try too.


I just brewed two CBTL Premium espressos (short shots) and some heated 1/2 and 1/2. Added a pack of Splenda and it's not bad, not bad at all. The Splenda takes out some of the bitterness. Heating up the 1/2 and 1/2 really makes a difference, trying it with cold 1/2 and 1/2 changes the whole taste, the coldness overpowers the espresso. You can get away with cold 1/2 and 1/2 in a regular cup of coffee because there's more volume of hot coffee.

Might be a good after lunch drink (regular or decaf). Still, I prefer a larger cup of coffee in the morning but I'll continue to experiment with the other espressos I have from CBTL.


It's also easy to make an Americano with the... Americano. Short with the espresso cap, then a blank with the long. The long blank on my machine delivers 6 oz (plus the ~1.5 from the short). I haven't measured the volume of a long shot on my machine. You can also cut the 8, 10 or 12 oz brew cycles short by pressing its button again.

I'll often do 2 of these to fill my 14 or 16 oz traveller if I don't use pods or the CBTL coffee caps... Americanos or redeye... or blackeye... or green 8)
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby roadie » Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:16 pm

BDogD wrote:
It's also easy to make an Americano with the... Americano. Short with the espresso cap, then a blank with the long. The long blank on my machine delivers 6 oz (plus the ~1.5 from the short). I haven't measured the volume of a long shot on my machine. You can also cut the 8, 10 or 12 oz brew cycles short by pressing its button again.

I'll often do 2 of these to fill my 14 or 16 oz traveller if I don't use pods or the CBTL coffee caps... Americanos or redeye... or blackeye... or green 8)


I will definitely use this technique. Thanks.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby cortadito » Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:23 am

roadie wrote:Boy, I must've been living on another planet.


I was on that same planet. In fact, I first heard of the Keurig (which apparently dominates the market) a few months ago, and only after many hours of research on espresso machines did I finally come across the CBTL/Caffitaly. I'm glad I did. I love it. Now, I hope the word spreads so the technology will gain market share and we'll end up with more capsule choices. Still, now that I'm applying jar's expert brewing techniques, I find I'd be quite happy with only the CBTL and Meinl capsules, if it came to that.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby cortadito » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:11 am

By the way, after further experimentation, for what it's worth: I'm finding I much prefer to brew the Meinl coffee in the long espresso setting. It adds the bitterness that I prefer and pretty much eliminates the malt-like taste that's present in the short. With the CBTLs, I prefer to use the short espresso setting.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby roadie » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:23 am

BDogD wrote:It's also easy to make an Americano with the... Americano. Short with the espresso cap, then a blank with the long. The long blank on my machine delivers 6 oz (plus the ~1.5 from the short). I haven't measured the volume of a long shot on my machine. You can also cut the 8, 10 or 12 oz brew cycles short by pressing its button again.

I'll often do 2 of these to fill my 14 or 16 oz traveller if I don't use pods or the CBTL coffee caps... Americanos or redeye... or blackeye... or green 8)


Right. So I experimented this morning before leaving the house and used two CBTL Premium espresso short shots and 10 oz. water, added cold 1/2 and 1/2, no sugar or splenda (which I prefer). Taste was so-so. As I got to work, I used two CBTL Italian espressos, 10 oz. water and heated up about a couple ounces of 1/2 and 1/2, no splenda, overall, I like the taste of this combo better, so far. Maybe heating up the 1/2 and 1/2 makes a difference. I'll try it again with the Premium on my next cup today or tomorrow. Also, I have to give the CBTL Continental a try as well.
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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby jar » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:15 am

roadie wrote:
BDogD wrote:It's also easy to make an Americano with the... Americano. Short with the espresso cap, then a blank with the long. The long blank on my machine delivers 6 oz (plus the ~1.5 from the short). I haven't measured the volume of a long shot on my machine. You can also cut the 8, 10 or 12 oz brew cycles short by pressing its button again.

I'll often do 2 of these to fill my 14 or 16 oz traveller if I don't use pods or the CBTL coffee caps... Americanos or redeye... or blackeye... or green 8)


Right. So I experimented this morning before leaving the house and used two CBTL Premium espresso short shots and 10 oz. water, added cold 1/2 and 1/2, no sugar or splenda (which I prefer). Taste was so-so. As I got to work, I used two CBTL Italian espressos, 10 oz. water and heated up about a couple ounces of 1/2 and 1/2, no splenda, overall, I like the taste of this combo better, so far. Maybe heating up the 1/2 and 1/2 makes a difference. I'll try it again with the Premium on my next cup today or tomorrow. Also, I have to give the CBTL Continental a try as well.


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Re: CBTL, Meinl & Ècaffè Caffitaly capsules

Postby roadie » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:46 pm

jar wrote:Many traditional European coffee drinks are made with milk and the only difference between the drinks is how the milk is prepared. Heated milk, steamed milk, frothed milk and cold milk each yield a distinct coffee profile.


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